Sarah CHARLES

____ - ____

Family 1 : William BACKUS
  1. +Mary BACKUS

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Thomas FOWNES (Esq)

1135 - ____

Father: Robert FOWNES

Family 1 : an unnamed TALBOYES
  1. +George FOWNES

                       _William FOWNES _____
                      | (1066 - ....)       
 _Robert FOWNES ______|
| (1084 - ....)       |
|                     |_an unnamed SAXBY ___+
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|--Thomas FOWNES 
|  (1135 - ....)
|                      _____________________
|                     |                     
|_____________________|
                      |
                      |_____________________
                                            

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Katherine GRAY

1606 - 21 FEB 1682

Father: Thomas GRAY
Mother: Katherine MYLES

Family 1 : Thomas GRAVES
  1. +Joseph GRAVES

                       _Richard GRAY _______
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 _Thomas GRAY ________|
| (1572 - 1607)       |
|                     |_Susan UNKNOWN ______
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|--Katherine GRAY 
|  (1606 - 1682)
|                      _Robert MYLES _______
|                     |                     
|_Katherine MYLES ____|
  (1576 - 1659)       |
                      |_Parnell UNKNOWN ____
                                            

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Caleb KNAPP (1636)

[142]

20 NOV 1636 - BEF 4/04 MAR 1674/1675

Father: Nicholas KNAPP
Mother: Elinor Buxton BROWN

Family 1 : Hannah SMITH
  1. +Moses KNAPP

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 _Nicholas KNAPP ______|
| (1592 - 1670) m 1631 |
|                      |_Martha BLOIS _______+
|                        (1565 - 1600)       
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|--Caleb KNAPP 
|  (1636 - 1674)
|                       _____________________
|                      |                     
|_Elinor Buxton BROWN _|
  (1600 - ....) m 1631 |
                       |_____________________
                                             

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[142]
or 20 Jan 1635/1636 (11th month).

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Klaus MAERKLIN (Jr.)

1380 - 1419

Father: Klaus MAERKLIN

Family 1 :
  1. +Paul MAERKLIN

                       _Markwart MAERKLIN __+
                      | (1326 - ....)       
 _Klaus MAERKLIN _____|
| (1355 - 1400)       |
|                     |_____________________
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|--Klaus MAERKLIN 
|  (1380 - 1419)
|                      _____________________
|                     |                     
|_____________________|
                      |
                      |_____________________
                                            

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Adam PERSHALE

ABT 1352 - 1439

Mother: Joan de EYTON

Family 1 : Joyce de BOTETOURT
  1. +Margaret de PERSHALE

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|--Adam PERSHALE 
|  (1352 - 1439)
|                      _John de EYTON ______
|                     | (1244 - ....)       
|_Joan de EYTON ______|
  (1270 - ....)       |
                      |_____________________
                                            

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Margaret Le POHER

[42]

ABT 1378 - ____

Father: John Le POHER

Family 1 : John WASHBOURNE
  1. +Norman WASHBOURNE

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 _John Le POHER ______|
| (1352 - ....)       |
|                     |__
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|--Margaret Le POHER 
|  (1378 - ....)
|                      __
|                     |  
|_____________________|
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[42]
This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File:
John /LE POHER/ (AFN:FNF7-WR) and Unknown
John /LE POHER/ (AFN:FPVJ-0R) and Unknown
John /LE POHER/ (AFN:GMH6-VM) and Unknown

at Witchenford.

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Joyce ZOUCHE

[113]

____ - AFT 4 MAY 1372

Father: William la ZOUCHE
Mother: Eleanor de CLARE

Family 1 : John of BOTETOURT
  1. +John of BOTETOURT

                       _Robert de MORTIMER _______+
                      | (1246 - 1287)             
 _William la ZOUCHE __|
| (1269 - 1336) m 1329|
|                     |_Joyce la ZOUCHE __________+
|                       (.... - 1289)             
|
|--Joyce ZOUCHE 
|  (.... - 1372)
|                      _Gilbert the Red de CLARE _
|                     | (1243 - 1295) m 1290      
|_Eleanor de CLARE ___|
  (1292 - 1337) m 1329|
                      |_Joan PLANTAGENET _________
                        (1272 - 1307) m 1290      

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[113]
From: "Georgiana Webster"
To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:01:00 -0500
I am trying to establish the actual mother of Joyce la Zouche de Mortimer. Her father William la Zouche de Mortimer, married twice. First to Alice de Toeni, which a lot of researchers give as the above Joyce's mother. However, according to the dates I can trace down, she was born after Alice died, and after William married Eleanor de Clare. This, of course, would make Eleanor her mother.

Eleanor de Clare was the d/o Gilbert de Clare (the Red) and Joan of Accra. Joan was the d/o of Edward 1 (Plantagent) and Eleanor of Castile.

Going back to Joyce la Zouche de Mortimer, she married John de Botetourte, the grandson of John de Botetourte - Lord Washingham, thought to be the illegitimate son of Edward 1.

These are my lines, but I need to pin down accurately Joyce la Zouche de Mortimer's mother.

I presume most of you have seen Brian Tompsett, of Hull, U.K.'s site www.deshull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/gedcom.html It is not complete, but very helpful.

Georgiana

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